
The Stoics, like the Buddhists, liked making lists of stuff, and virtue, what they considered “the highest good”, is actually four different things. Wisdom, courage, temperance and justice.
Ryan Holiday has decided to write a book about each of them, and I’m going to share what I think about Discipline is Destiny, the second in the series, detailing the virtue of temperance.
The positives? Ryan Holiday is a smart, productive dude, and he reads a lot of books. Any book you pick up by him will have a high chance of containing an interesting quote, anecdote or lesson from history. As much as I’d like to say that I’ve read 1300 pages detailing the life of Robert Moses, it’s easier to peer in via an airport paperback. Discipline is Destiny is no different than his other Stoic Buffet™ books, and I’ve listed out my favorite quotes below.
The negatives? Ryan’s industrial strength reading and note-taking ability becomes his weakness, as he struggles to weave together all these nuggets of wisdom into a coherent whole. Like his mentor Robert Greene, he’s a systematizer. He looks for patterns, connects the dots and applies scaffolding to make sense of life. But unlike like Yuval Noah Harrari, Nassim Taleb or Alain de Botton, nothing really fresh emerges from the system. This book felt strangely dense yet fluffy at the same time. The sporadic insights from Ryan are index-card sized. What is missing here is a book-sized insight. Without a central argument, or even strong chapter structure, contradictions start piling up. On one hand you’re nodding your head at a piece of wisdom, and at the same time glancing up at the chapter title and thinking really?
Toward the end of the book, Ryan writes that “the four virtues are about instilling character – good character- so that at the critical point, a person’s true nature kicks in.”
That is an interesting idea, that I wished was explored more. It’s not like some self-help author invented the idea of discipline to sell books. This stuff, along with the capacity for courage, love, wisdom etc is in us already. Which makes you look at the instructions and examples from famous people a little differently. Did they actually know what they were doing? Or did that particular virtue come easier to them? Is the sword-saint of Japan or a five star general doing something special, or just being themselves, in a way that looks special to the outside eye? Some of the characters here clearly worked extremely hard to stay disciplined in their fields, others simply don’t seem to have an off-switch. Even Ryan is quick to say that none of them (the Queen included) is perfect.
Off-seasons: A feature of athletic life that those of us in other professions should consider adopting.
Absolute activity of any kind leads to bankruptcy. – Goethe
Epicurus had a surprising definition of pleasure: “sober reasoning, searching out the motives of every choice and avoidance, and banishing those beliefs through which the greatest disturbances take possession of the soul.”
Marcus Aurelius tells us to chill: Don’t feel exasperated, or defeated, or despondent because your days aren’t packed with wise and moral actions.
Freedom is an opportunity for self-discipline. – Eisenhower
On Theodore Roosevelt’s strenuous life: “While in the White House, I always tried to get a couple of hours exercise in the afternoons.”
Word I hadn’t heard before, and I’m unlikely to ever hear again: “Military commanders speak of the value of celerity.”
E.B White turning down an invitation to a prestigious commission like an absolute boss: “I must decline, for secret reasons.”
“When you have nothing to fear, your mind becomes dull.” – Floyd Patterson
“I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me.” – Churchill. Can you say the same? All that stuff you do/eat/drink/say every day. What are you getting out of it?
William Thalhimer, a jewish businessman reflecting on dealing with an anti-semitic: “I came out here to purchase that piece of land. I got the piece of land. It belongs to me now, not to him. That man can go on cursing me as long as he likes. I have that land.”
Money is exactly what he deserves. – Musonius Rufus
“Why didn’t you do your best?” Admiral Hyman Rickover asking Jimmy Carter a particularly hard interview question.
Cleanthes, a stoic philosopher, came upon a man berating himself for some failure. “Remember,” he said kindly, “you’re not talking to a bad man.”
“Lift me up and hurl me, wherever you will. My spirit will be gracious to me there – gracious and satisfied.” – Marcus Aurelius
