The following is a lightly edited transcript from my grandmother Jane Clement

But if I walk in the garden and I don’t actively think, everything is beautiful. 

It’s when you start thinking, that things start falling to pieces.

To try and spend time not thinking is quite difficult. 

To me, meditating is too (structured) to be the practical answer. For anyone to meditate for a long spell, maybe that’s a mistake.

Maybe, it’s the meditation that flashes through you which you don’t even really know you’ve had. That’s the real stuff.

Because that really is the answer isn’t it? That’s life. If you put (life) on a platform as we’ve done the last few minutes, it’s not the same thing at all. 

It’s the difference between me describing a house to you and suddenly seeing it.